EN-English International Keyboard
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Chip Cooper
When using my 'default' international keyboard in Granthika. Typing apostrophe has an issue typing possessive words, like Fred's. Normally, when typing ñ I type the ~ then n. Or if accenting the letter i, I do the same ' then i = í. This is normal behavior, here on the website and in Granthika; but not with 's which creates ś with the international keyboard it should be 's. So perhaps Microsoft has a misnomer for International, and it should be European keyboard, not International! (hmm, or Latin Keyboard) as the symbols are used mostly in latin based [European] languages where ś is an exception, and here in this post, cut and pasted from Granthika.
Assia Alexandrova
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Chip Cooper
Assia Alexandrova: Thank you for looking into this. I use this keyboard extensively, and am now just selecting the typical and default US keyboard for the time being; I wanted to make sure I was clear on this issue's behavior in Granthika, naturally, I do not experience this with the international keyboard when typing here, on a web page.
;-)
Under normal behavior for the international keyboard, we learn quickly to type a space if we need the symbols separated. Ex: ö vs "o (actually typing "o vs "<space>o) and the ś character typically doesn't exist in the international keyboard at all. However, if for Granthika the desire is to continue to allow the user to make an ś in Granthika. The actual change needed would be to allow '<space>s to make 's in Granthika (with US international keyboard). This would be acceptable as that is normal behavior for other
international
characters when using the international keyboard. So, just make it so that when one wants (ś), type (s') (Note: this already happens with international keyboard when using Granthika) and when one wants ('s), just type ('<space>s) (Note: this is the desired behavior and one I already do automatically when using apostrophe in the International Keyboard (because í or 'i so also for 's type '<space>s too!)). I hope this is clear. :-) For the future, one can then add any accented character in Granthika when using international keyboard, even if it doesn't exist normally because
accent
+ character = accented character, and accent
+<space>+character = accent after character.C
Chip Cooper
If someone wants to see this behavior, in the bottom left corner of the Microsoft Windows 10 OS, click the bottom left hand corner Window logo, and type "Language", this will allow one to open the language selector, where one can then add the EN-US International keyboard, and select it as the default. This will allow one to reproduce the error mentioned above. Apparently, this allows a user to make accented consonants; however the ś is a new one to me and not supported by this keyboard; and creates issues in Granthika. To go back to the standard EN keyboard, just delete the international keyboard (the one added) from the language selection for US-English language
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Chip Cooper
To use an accent character alone, like ~ or ' I type the character then a <space>. Normally this indicates I want the symbol and not the accented letter. This works normally for the tilde ~ in Granthika. However for the apostrophe, this is not working correctly; but only with the letter 's'.
In the international keyboard. 's accented ś is not a recognized letter for the apostrophe to accent. So typing 's as apostrophe/letter s appears as here 's; however in Granthika it produces ś, and to make a 's I have to type ' space, which makes ' s, and not 's, necessitating that I have to backspace every time I want to add a possessive or delete the ś then delete it and remember to act differently.
The US international keyboard is a very common tool by multi language users. I'm not sure why it has this issue in Granthika, the ś doesn't exist anywhere else as an issue, to my knowledge. Because this doesn't exist for 's normally with the international keyboard, using Granthika necessitates me having to backspace to delete the accidental ś and then '<space><backspace>s. to make a possessive like Fred's. This is not an issue with the normal US keyboard, only the International keyboard.
Naturally, I could, and do do this as a workaround; so, is this even considered a bug by Granthika standards? Unfortunately it might mean changing keyboards everytime I want to use the normal Keyboard, which can be done; but, is cumbersome.
Using the US international keyboard means I don't have to change keyboards with the European languages. But, others, like Russian, automatically select the Cyrillic keyboard with the language. So, my default is EN-International, and other languages use their own keyboard.
If someone would use the ś a lot; I could see this being default, but it is not standard for the EN-International(European) keyboard. This error makes it problematic for anyone using the International keyboard. Fredś just doesn't cut it. n't works fine in both; but 's does not in Granthika. Perhaps it's an artifact from Granthika's origin and could be removed? Or not... :-(
Naturally, as a troubleshooter, leave it to me to find an exception. :-/